Have you ever served, or just big military fan?Recognize any of these?
I have the original BF3 steel box but it's in another container somewhere with more games. I never get rid of game boxes
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Have you ever served, or just big military fan?Recognize any of these?
I have the original BF3 steel box but it's in another container somewhere with more games. I never get rid of game boxes
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“The hovercraft glitches know to much, kill them” - BA probablyre: flying hovercraft, if abused, it should be a severe ban but certainly not perm at BA level. thats an over the top and absurd solution regardless of what set of standards you want to deploy
plus nansha strike is boring AF. by far the worst boat map
Dam you still got your big boxes!?! That’s awesome!Recognize any of these?
I have the original BF3 steel box but it's in another container somewhere with more games. I never get rid of game boxes
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They were cool but also completely useless from what I remember lolNope. They were in from launch.
It was tough to manage to get a kill with them, yeah.They were cool but also completely useless from what I remember lol
heck yeah it isis that pfp sianvar
It's not an exception, it's making the punishment actually make sense. Who's it actually helping by going straight to a permanent ban? Nobody's game was ruined by flying hovercraft and nobody expects to be banned for doing something harmless and stupid. I've seen things similar to flying hovercrafts happen and people just react to it by laughing about it in chat. If you want to uphold the rule that's fine, but if nobody else was actually impacted by their actions it should at least be a temporary ban or be appealable. It's important to preserve communities in old games that don't receive support, dealing out heavy-handed punishments to core members of said communities because "them's the rules" on principle is simply dumb. Nobody who actually frequents Bz6 is happy about Temp being permabanned, the only people who I've seen supporting the permaban are people who don't even play on the server.Rules are rules and the exception to a rule invalidates the rule.
I have seen it be destroyed at various stages. If any core member would be permanently banned for a harmless glitch, it's a fruitless hill to die on. As much as I joke about "legalizing space hovercrafts" I understand wanting to uphold the no-tolerance rule, I really do, but this is an overreaction. I have warned others about not using the glitch since a lot of people don't even know it's permabannable, or at least didn't until Temp got perma'd. I didn't even know it was grounds for a perma but luckily I never learned how to do the glitch. It was so commonplace at a certain point that people would specifically vote for maps like Mortar and Lost Islands just to see a space hovercraft. Pretty sure the message has been sent by now and that could've been done just as effectively without martyring one of the server's regulars. I don't know the guy personally nor have I been around Bz for a long time, I just don't see how the decision to go straight to a permanent ban helps make the game more fun at all.You can’t.
It’s not. If I or any other bZ member did this, we would have our membership revoked and we’d be permanently banned, same as anyone else.
Tell them not to do it then lol.
this is an overreaction
I am shocked!! that it can't be clearer than that!Yes, it is. On your part. It’s called a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY for a reason, and I already explained to you that even if I as an admin did this glitch, I would be permanently banned and have my bZ membership revoked forever. We cannot make it more clear to you or anyone else.
Just to clarify, I was straight forward about the hovercraft in my original appeal:It wouldn’t have made a difference in his case but when players lie in their appeal attempt, we are even less inclined to approve their unbans.
Just to clarify, I was straight forward about the hovercraft in my original appeal:
Why should we lift your ban?
"Obviously if flying the hovercraft is against server rules I won't do it going forward, I just need some clarity from you gentlemen.
Is it (the rule) new?
It never came up when typing "/rules" in server. I also took a quick peak in the BF4 Rules section on the forum tonight and I don't see it there either.
Thanks for your time Swag."
Battlefield 4 Server Rules
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Hacking/cheating will result in an instant permanent ban regardless of previous infractions or the lack thereof. We have a zero-tolerance policy against hacking and all accounts linked to an account determined to have been hacking. We use multiple methods to confirm hacking and do not ban based on suspicion alone.
In most situations, it is best to use common sense.
We do not typically police emblems, BA on the other hand does for toxic emblems (Racist or NAZI related).
If someone reports for an emblem BA bans for, I usually submit the evidence to them.
We do ban for the flying hovercraft glitch.
Roof glitching is case by case, on hardcore it isn't very common to see as you cannot launch vehicles with C4.
It usually also depends on the method used to achieve such a location.
We don't tolerate glitching into walls.
Creating/abusing an indestructible unkillable vehicle that serves as a spawn point for your team is classified as cheating and is common sense as to why.
Abusing a glitch that creates an unkillable spawnpoint IS cheating, plain and simple. If that’s too confusing, then good luck on other servers.There is literally no language in neonardo1's BF4 Rules section that equates an "unkillable" vehicle to "hacking/cheating"
Abusing a glitch that creates an unkillable spawnpoint IS cheating, plain and simple. If that’s too confusing, then good luck on other servers.
Unfortunately the admins neonardo1 appointed are killing his servers. Most of the time they're empty now because of what you guys are doing.
the argument for allowing the metro glitch is, "well you can jump to it and obtain an unfair advantage, tough shit complainers"
the argument against the hovercraft glitch is, "well you can fly the hovercraft and obtain an unfair advantage, BAN"