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You are free to believe whatever you want.

Not really. Trying to expand your mind (and the minds of everyone that may read this thread).

"...the forces or processes of the material world..." Forces have no material manifestation. They have no material existence. They come from somewhere but it's not the material world. What could we be describing here? Let me try from a different perspective.... something can't manifest...

Ad hominem. I thought we were having a consensual discussion.

If you say so.

The manifest state of payment due. Anything to do with the chin?

Every state of being is a manifestation of mind. You may not necessarily recognize it as such. You may instead attribute this state of being as to some "natural" consequence. Here's where it gets fun. The word nature comes from the Egyptian 'Ntr' (no vowels in this language) meaning "of the...

Any what precisely is the "state of being engaged" other than the decision to become a married couple? Amusement... again, we've been over this. A state (of mind) of being amused.

Any what do you think ment means in this context? Of this chin or something to do with a chin?

Perfect. You have decided (in your mind) to marry that person (or you both have an agreement of the mind to wed). Retort?

Give us an example of a word ending in ment that doesn't pertain to the mind. Exclude the word government since that's the topic of our discussion.

Sure, logic though for us how any of that would possibly apply to the formation of the word "government".

Nope. I noted the same meaning in this case because it's the same Latin root. Lain men (meaning "to think") comes from the same Latin root as mens meaning the mind. Mens rea, commonly used in common day law, means "a guilty mind". Heck, the word "men" is used in title of beings (us) that are...

Sure, but homophones have different meanings. What's your point?

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So what? The Truth doesn't care about that particular opinion. What is it that you automatically think that's "the truth"? Consensus? In formal Logic, this is what is known as an Appeal to Authority: when someone claims a statement is true simply because an authority figure supports it...

I agree, the Truth is not up for debate. But you nor I nor anyone are the ultimate arbiters of Truth... this includes what any website may have to say on the matter.

Here's the logic: The link provided for the origin and history of -ment: https://www.etymonline.com/word/-ment Claims English suffix -ment comes from the Latin -mentum, itself latterly meaning "the chin" If accurate, it would then follow that in Latin -mentum was added to a verb to make nouns...

Take for example the word 'mental'. Of the mind. Here the root ment refers to the mind (from the Latin word mentes) and al means "of, like, related to, pertaining to". If the etymology link for -ment is to be believed, one would have to agree that the Latin word mentus, which is claimed as...