Clarification

[ithinkimabunny]

Here if you require a blue line, have a blue line. If you place things on the A side of this line, you'll be safe. Past the blue doesn't immediately count as mining uncap depending on where you put mines but you're approaching the boundary and risking going too far.

You didn't answer my questions. I asked a bunch of them. I don't need your interpretation for this specific case, I need to know how to apply it universally.

Maybe you should create diagrams for every uncap on every map in rotation and publish them for inspection if you want to go this route.

WARNING: You don't want to go down this road.

 

[PandaExpress293]

Maybe you should create diagrams for every uncap on every map in rotation and publish them for inspection if you want to go this route.

Our current system is we review everything on a case by case basis. I'm only providing this as an example in this specific case.

Other factors in reports are taken into consideration at the time that are not always transferable to other maps. I'm sure you have the ability to imagine equidistant buffers for the remaining maps so as not to place mines on the boundary of uncap. Just put yourself in the shoes of the other side instead of attempting to make things arduous.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Our current system is we review everything on a case by case basis. I'm only providing this as an example in this specific case.

Other factors in reports are taken into consideration at the time that are not always transferable to other maps. I'm sure you have the ability to imagine equidistant buffers for the remaining maps so as not to place mines on the boundary of uncap. Just put yourself in the shoes of the other side instead of attempting to make things arduous.

Great.

Can you please answer my questions now?

 

[PandaExpress293]

Great.

Can you please answer my questions now?

I did, but I'll expand on them for you.

How do you define "A"?
Blue line.

Do I have to be inside the capture perimeter of A to be on A?
Obviously not, please see the blue line.

Does A extend out some distance from the capture ring in your mind?
Please refer to the blue line.

Should I pace my steps from the capture ring (since I don't have a tape measure in the game as a selectable option) or should I just "wing it"?
Estimate it in regard to the blue line.

Would that mean I can't place any mines, for example, in any area that's NOT on a flag, like A?
No, please take a look at the blue line.

What about that space between A and B that's both "not on A" and also "not on B" or does this just apply to the flag nearest each uncap?
If you look in the image above, you'll see a blue line that gives you a good idea as to where the boundary is.

What's "near" mean? How near is near? Is there some "common sense" connotation for near that I don't know?
Near, meaning close, almost touching. Notice how the blue line above creates a small area from the uncap boundary and is inline with the red star.

What does "protection for me" mean? Is there some action I can take in the game that you wouldn't consider protection for me?
As long as you're not baiting, (which in most cases means idling at border with the intention of trying to get the enemy to shoot before you exit, when you clearly had time to leave safely), you have the freedom to move about your base, which includes waiting for vehicles and observing.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

I did, but I'll expand on them for you.

How do you define "A"?
Blue line.

Do I have to be inside the capture perimeter of A to be on A?
Obviously not, please see the blue line.

Does A extend out some distance from the capture ring in your mind?
Please refer to the blue line.

Should I pace my steps from the capture ring (since I don't have a tape measure in the game as a selectable option) or should I just "wing it"?
Estimate it in regard to the blue line.

Would that mean I can't place any mines, for example, in any area that's NOT on a flag, like A?
No, please take a look at the blue line.

What about that space between A and B that's both "not on A" and also "not on B" or does this just apply to the flag nearest each uncap?
If you look in the image above, you'll see a blue line that gives you a good idea as to where the boundary is.

What's "near" mean? How near is near? Is there some "common sense" connotation for near that I don't know?
Near, meaning close, almost touching. Notice how the blue line above creates a small area from the uncap boundary and is inline with the red star.

What does "protection for me" mean? Is there some action I can take in the game that you wouldn't consider protection for me?
As long as you're not baiting, (which in most cases means idling at border with the intention of trying to get the enemy to shoot before you exit, when you clearly had time to leave safely), you have the freedom to move about your base, which includes waiting for vehicles and observing.

Again, this is specific to only one case. I need to know how to apply this to ALL uncaps for ALL maps. (Hint: PROPER answers to my questions CANNOT reference the specific case used for ILLUSTRATIVE purposes only. That's what an illustration is, it illustrates a specific case; by example.)

Can we expect then that you're going to generate and post diagrams with corresponding blues lines for each map in rotation?

 

[PandaExpress293]

Again, this is specific to only one case. I need to know how to apply this to ALL uncaps for ALL maps.

Don't place mines within a reasonably close distance to the uncap border. Before you try to repeat that you don't know what near, close or reasonably are, those punished for mines have always been clearly trapping enemies in base. It's quite an easy distinction to make when looking at images or reports. Nothing more needs to be said in regard to the distance.

Can we expect then that you're going to generate and post diagrams with corresponding blues lines for each map in rotation?

No, I stated it was an example for that specific case.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Don't place mines within a reasonably close distance to the uncap border. Before you try to repeat that you don't know what near, close or reasonably are, those punished for mines have always been clearly trapping enemies in base. It's quite an easy distinction to make when looking at images or reports. Nothing more needs to be said in regard to the distance.


No, I stated it was an example for that specific case.

What does "clearly" mean? Clear to whom? You? Me? Covert? What images and reports should I study as case law on the matter? I rarely if ever use mines. I play recon mostly and am usually in a jet.

Also, when should we expect those diagrams for the umpteen other uncaps since you admit this is for a specific case only?

Admit: to place before the court; admittance

 

[PandaExpress293]

What does "clearly" mean? Clear to whom? You? Me? Covert? What images and reports should I study as case law on the matter?

Also, when should we expect those diagrams for the umpteen other uncaps since you admit this is for a specific case only?

Clearly means clear + ly. Clear to anyone. Study everything you can. You can expect further diagrams when I release the next version of "Banzore Rules for Dummies", which should be released in late 2048. Until then, you'll have to make do with what you have, thanks for listening to my Ted talk, until next time, byeeeee.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Clear to anyone? I'm one of anyone and it's not clear to me.

Very good. I suspect there may be a type-o in the release date of the next version of "Banzore Rules for Dummies". I must admit, I have not read the current version. Do you have a link?

Right. Game over. Thanks for playing. Can't say that was the best performance I've ever seen.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

And this, folks, is what passes for acceptable.

We have at least one rule in the set of rules that we have identified thus far that is subject to undefinable terms and so may be abused, by the enforcers, at will, with no regard.

I hope this has been eye opening.

I recommend this be stickied so everyone sees it. We wouldn't want to accidentally break the rules, now would we? This is important information for all to know.

 

[PandaExpress293]

so may be abused, by the enforcers, at will,

Except none of us abuse anything, so you've discredited yourself and your entire argument. But like I responded to Covert, you have the right to your perspective and I'll leave it at that. Have a good one, it's been very eye opening to me indeed, especially what everyone says about you..

 

[ithinkimabunny]

On to the slander phase!

Mind sharing what others have said about me with you? I'm a big boy. I can take it.

 

[SquarePanties]

Hey, Idiots, it has always been a rule since day one. I would know...

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Except none of us abuse anything, so you've discredited yourself and your entire argument. But like I responded to Covert, you have the right to your perspective and I'll leave it at that. Have a good one, it's been very eye opening to me indeed, especially what everyone says about you..

Dude, the problem is you have an undefined rule. You can't/won't define where uncap starts and stops and so any reference to "uncap" is gibberish.

No amount of bitching about me is going to fix that.

 

[SquarePanties]

Hey, bunny, do you want bz to have a rule for every fucking detail in the game, equalling 500 pages worth about what is okay and what is not. Page 1 US Silk Road: you can't pass this boundary with mines in this diagram. Page 2 CN Silk Road: you can't pass this boundary with mine in this diagram. EX: Use your brain and listen to what moderators said in the previous messages about the boundaries.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Hey, bunny, do you want bz to have a rule for every fucking detail in the game, equalling 500 pages worth about what is okay and what is not. Page 1 US Silk Road: you can't pass this boundary with mines in this diagram. Page 2 CN Silk Road: you can't pass this boundary with mine in this diagram. EX: Use your brain and listen to what moderators said in the previous messages about the boundaries.

No. I want to know how to determine where uncap starts and stops according to the definition that Panda holds in his mind and refuses to share.

 

[SquarePanties]

If you wish to know, the best way is not to attack the people who moderate the server. They will ignore you because you ask irrelevant questions that everyone else gets except you. I have told many people you can't place mine by spawn, and they get what it means. You guys are just being ignorant dumbass cause you can be.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

If you wish to know, the best way is not to attack the people who moderate the server. They will ignore you because you ask irrelevant questions that everyone else expects you to. I have told many people you can't place mine by spawn, and they get what it means. You guys are just being ignorant dumbass cause you can be.

What do you mean by "by spawn"? How far away from spawn is close enough to be considered "by spawn"?

These are legitimate questions.

I am not offended that you think I ask too many questions. That's how we gather information. Not all information is true, but that's how we gather it from others.

Let's see if your definition of "too close" matches Panda's definition of "too close". Of course, he would have to share his definition...

BTW, we all know you two can conspire in DM so have at it.

 

[SquarePanties]

Like I said, every map is different, you dumbass fucking bunny. End of the discussion, they aren't going to make a fucking dictionary for you, so you know every goddamn rule. If you wish to see the estimated boundaries, they already said that in the previous discussion. Stop being a dumbass

 

[ithinkimabunny]

Like I said, every map is different, you dumbass fucking bunny. End of the discussion, they aren't going to make a fucking dictionary for you, so you know every goddamn rule. If you wish to see the estimated boundaries, they already said that in the previous discussion. Stop being a dumbass

Right, every map is different. Got it.

So, for each map, how precisely would I go about determining where uncap starts and stops? I suspect the easiest way to convey this would be to share your method of determination.

I like how you used the word "estimated". How do I estimate where uncap starts and stops? Again, your method is preferred.

I'm not arguing. I'm just asking questions here...

(BTW, you can't give commands in a discourse. That's why it's called a dis-course. We're off course and out of control. You're taking us down a new road.)