Then let him spawn right in front of you, follow him out of the uncap, and then zot him. Your moral and ethical dilemma has now been resolved.
You are most welcome.
Rules on provocative uncap engagement?
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Then let him spawn right in front of you, follow him out of the uncap, and then zot him. Your moral and ethical dilemma has now been resolved.
You are most welcome.
tl;dr
Ofc Is what I do jajajajaja chase em till they are far enought or shoot, but killim instantly is banneable accoding to this ppl
Yikes couldn't disagree more. I absolutely train my main gun on enemy combatants as they start from their base. Why? Because someone always ends up FAFO. As soon as they fire i release counter measures and full on unload. I WILL NOT assume that they will adhere to server rules , instead i ready myself for an attack. Being anywhere near the enemy uncap i.e. flag ECHO in Golmud, is precarious in nature and often leads to enemy tanks etc firing as soon they spawn out before leaving the uncap. I do not however lock on on an enemy in an uncap until someone engages us. Then.... you get what you get when you FA.... you....FO.
WvGoDFather
Donator
Quite a few players are now staying above enemy uncaps, no matter the map waiting for aircraft to spawn in, in the air, and immediately attacks them or helos taking off.
The PORK guys are experts at this.
The PORK guys are experts at this.
welcome to battlefield buddy
Israel is doing this to Iran. Ukraine is killing Russian aircraft in their uncaps too.
SrOrgasmus
Donator
@gamophyte you should review this thread and general threads on the attacking uncap rule. Cold has listened to your attempts at being the game police with "politics and religion in the chat" reports, and has doled out punish points. Just because you got a attacking uncap report dismissed on a technicality (your gunner shot a millisecond before you got killed), doesn't mean that you are being targeted.
TL/DR: Gamophyte is attempting to be the game chat police through reporting, and got mad that his report about uncap attacking didn't get special treatment. You just ain't that special kid..
try pressing H for chat issues.
examples of his reports:
latest complaint:
ty @Coldkiller for doing the Lord's work, hopefully i dont get reported for bringing the Lord into this..
TL/DR: Gamophyte is attempting to be the game chat police through reporting, and got mad that his report about uncap attacking didn't get special treatment. You just ain't that special kid..
try pressing H for chat issues.examples of his reports:
Complaint Handled Post in thread 'Complaint from gamophyte about player muphinmunch'
Complaint Handled Thread 'Complaint from gamophyte about player ExUSSR_BuzZ'
ty @Coldkiller for doing the Lord's work, hopefully i dont get reported for bringing the Lord into this..
tl;dr
"Cold has listened to your attempts at being the game police with "politics and religion in the chat" reports" — Thank you for clarifying the perspective on my reports. It's helpful to understand this, rather than just being shouted down in my post without explanation. It seems the issue isn't whether the content violates rules, but rather the act of reporting itself.
It's really simple for me; I largely play on the weekends and strive to keep this community, much like a favorite bar, clean of troublemakers, especially when there isn't a steady admin presence. I like to use chat a lot, as a social outlet, and it has become a bigger part of my gameplay. A lot of us want to escape the news cycle and politics when we play, and for the past three years my reports fit within the rules and only recently started drawing ire for no apparent reason.
One begins to think things like, did I simply report Coldkiller's friend? Plausible because someone I don't know, immediately taunted me in chat stating that my reports no longer get answered (when it just started) alluding to side conversations with Cold about me.
Or maybe this is politics? As it so happens the rightwingers make the most frequent political comments, and it would be incidental that it would mean I would report them more often. But who's to say :/
The way @SrOrgasmus states it, is that I should view all times Cold has punished from my report as some sort of favor to me personally - but no, expecting consistent application of the rules isn't 'special treatment'; it's a fundamental expectation for any community with stated guidelines.
But who knows this could just be an adjustment period for the admins that stuck around, let me know how I can proceed.
"(your gunner shot a millisecond before you got killed), doesn't mean that you are being targeted." LOL let's suppose the pilot, not me, was trying to hit the sniper. You can see on the map exactly what was happening. Confusion from being snipped. Why is the sniper there? I will tell you, to deliberately position themselves to eliminate newly spawning players and their gunners. You only highlight the uneven treatment of my reports.
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Since you are obsessed with my reports to go hunt them down, here's more!
Oct 25, 2024 — A player took on various names of my clanmates and other regulars to harass and disrupt. Report unanswered.
Nov 2, 2024 — I saw this player being disruptive and noticed they were ban evading when I did the typical searching I always do from my time as an USSA Admin (it takes literally seconds) - but the report unanswered.
Feb 28, 2025 — My report on this player resulted in me being reprimanded without explanation or action taken. Curiously, just days after my report, this user's chat logs were selectively wiped from all BZ servers for reasons unknown. This was my first exposure to something new happening at BZ; that merely being racist isn't an issue; one must use a filtered or egregious racial slur, effectively, the N-word, for action to be taken. Example they can use "yellow" or "black african american" as (or adjacent to) the pejorative and it's okay. I disagree with this interpretation of what constitutes racism, but I have noted the rule.
Mar 7, 2025 — I encountered this player again months later and highlighted their persistent disruptive behavior, believing admins would also appreciate knowing about the ban evade as well. Instead, I received a seemingly incoherent and disproportionate response, including comments like:
March 19, 2025 A report concerning a racist post was ignored.
March 23, 2025 A report on a player stoking reactions to world politics was ignored.
It's really simple for me; I largely play on the weekends and strive to keep this community, much like a favorite bar, clean of troublemakers, especially when there isn't a steady admin presence. I like to use chat a lot, as a social outlet, and it has become a bigger part of my gameplay. A lot of us want to escape the news cycle and politics when we play, and for the past three years my reports fit within the rules and only recently started drawing ire for no apparent reason.
One begins to think things like, did I simply report Coldkiller's friend? Plausible because someone I don't know, immediately taunted me in chat stating that my reports no longer get answered (when it just started) alluding to side conversations with Cold about me.
Or maybe this is politics? As it so happens the rightwingers make the most frequent political comments, and it would be incidental that it would mean I would report them more often. But who's to say :/
The way @SrOrgasmus states it, is that I should view all times Cold has punished from my report as some sort of favor to me personally - but no, expecting consistent application of the rules isn't 'special treatment'; it's a fundamental expectation for any community with stated guidelines.
But who knows this could just be an adjustment period for the admins that stuck around, let me know how I can proceed.
"(your gunner shot a millisecond before you got killed), doesn't mean that you are being targeted." LOL let's suppose the pilot, not me, was trying to hit the sniper. You can see on the map exactly what was happening. Confusion from being snipped. Why is the sniper there? I will tell you, to deliberately position themselves to eliminate newly spawning players and their gunners. You only highlight the uneven treatment of my reports.
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Since you are obsessed with my reports to go hunt them down, here's more!
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-vadr-wumperfruit-vadr-dr_throx-vadr-gramaphyle.20799/
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-jenosidejoe.20827/
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-akdav47.21569/#post-140713
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-friendlychud.21664/#post-141215- "The attempts discovered, by the way, have nothing to do with the information you submitted." OK.
- "As for the racism aspect of your report, there is nothing I find worthy of taking action for."
Oh yeah that's right, it has to be a filtered word. - "Knock it off with the witch hunting bullshit as well."
This comment was completely unfounded, implying I had conducted extensive research or possessed an insatiable desire to get someone banned, when simply noticing ban evasion takes seconds. - "It'd be in your best interest to just move forward with this, be civil with everyone, and let us handle the player as we see fit."
Again what was this even addressing on my end? You can see my reply of genuine confusion.
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-friendly_gnaw.21663/
Code:
https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-gamophyte-about-player-tank_repair_guy.21683/
Too long didn’t read.
Sure there are a few reports here that you pointed out that were a genuine oversight. I can go back and review some of the mentioned reports and take action if needed, but my decisions may also stay the same if some were marked resolved. Mistakes do happen, and outside of Banzore and BF4, I am incredibly busy with a job. In fact, to say that I'm incredibly busy with a job is also an understatement. My admin duties here at Banzore are simply a voluntary task that I perform. Sorry I don't have time to sit here and slave away just to make Mr. Gamophyte happy.
There are also some reports, none in particular, that I purposely chose to ignore simply because it wasn't worthy of my time or effort to take action towards for obvious reasons. Much like for any dumb, time-wasting report, I'll either acknowledge it if I feel like it, or just ignore it (the message ultimately gets across). I'm not obligated to bow down to you and make decisions that work in your favor. I will make the necessary decisions based on what is most appropriate, whether you like it or not. And if you feel that I'm not fair, it's the same way that all of our past and present admins operate.
SrOrgasmus' post was quite honestly spot on and read my mind. If you're losing sleep over the little stuff in life, especially what happens in BZ, then you might need to find a new hobby or just get off the internet entirely. We're only human, but you're clearly taking this waaaaaaaaay to seriously.
I thought neo was paying you for the job?
Your response is noted, but let's be clear.
I understand you're "incredibly busy" and admin duties are "voluntary," but those explanations don't cover the fundamental issues your response highlights.
Regarding reports you might keep "marked resolved," even if they're oversights: if a report is dismissed without explanation, especially when rules seem inconsistent, it creates confusion and frustration for players. This makes the entire rule system look arbitrary. My aim isn't "special treatment"; it's for everyone to know how rules are actually enforced. Lacking transparency makes rules meaningless.
Purposely ignoring "not worthy of my time or effort" or "dumb, time-wasting" reports isn't just leaving the reporter in the dark; it's a dismissive approach. It's not about "bowing down" to me; it's about consistent communication. If a report isn't actionable, a clear, brief explanation is a simple courtesy that prevents misunderstandings. Is that too much to ask from an admin?
Frankly, your suggestion that caring about rule consistency means "losing sleep over the little stuff" or "taking this waaaaaaaaay too seriously" misunderstands why players report. We report because we invest in this community and want a decent server environment. When chat is consistently disruptive or offensive, it degrades the experience. My reports are simply about maintaining the standards we all signed up for.
With no comment on any of the reports that were dismissed because I don't have a theory of your thinking, I'll do us both a favor and stop reporting. There are plenty of others who report if I don't, I don't need to be front and center on this kind of thing. I'll take a back seat and watch the headscratchers.
PS. Neo come on man, at least some coffee money. I will send another 200 if you send 100 his way.
I understand you're "incredibly busy" and admin duties are "voluntary," but those explanations don't cover the fundamental issues your response highlights.
Regarding reports you might keep "marked resolved," even if they're oversights: if a report is dismissed without explanation, especially when rules seem inconsistent, it creates confusion and frustration for players. This makes the entire rule system look arbitrary. My aim isn't "special treatment"; it's for everyone to know how rules are actually enforced. Lacking transparency makes rules meaningless.
Purposely ignoring "not worthy of my time or effort" or "dumb, time-wasting" reports isn't just leaving the reporter in the dark; it's a dismissive approach. It's not about "bowing down" to me; it's about consistent communication. If a report isn't actionable, a clear, brief explanation is a simple courtesy that prevents misunderstandings. Is that too much to ask from an admin?
Frankly, your suggestion that caring about rule consistency means "losing sleep over the little stuff" or "taking this waaaaaaaaay too seriously" misunderstands why players report. We report because we invest in this community and want a decent server environment. When chat is consistently disruptive or offensive, it degrades the experience. My reports are simply about maintaining the standards we all signed up for.
With no comment on any of the reports that were dismissed because I don't have a theory of your thinking, I'll do us both a favor and stop reporting. There are plenty of others who report if I don't, I don't need to be front and center on this kind of thing. I'll take a back seat and watch the headscratchers.
PS. Neo come on man, at least some coffee money. I will send another 200 if you send 100 his way.
Not every report requires an explanation. In some cases the person making the report actually fucked up and the mods are trying to be cool by letting it slide.
In this case you would be the one fucking up by not letting this slide.
My advice? End it now, let it slide, and move on.
Such a mic drop after taking your time to reply to one sentence that is only inherent to one paragraph. And for a second time too. Please make this harder for me.
I don't know what you're referring to here, but since you don't read, I don't think you know what you're referring to either lol.Not every report requires an explanation. In some cases the person making the report actually fucked up and the mods are trying to be cool by letting it slide.
In this case you would be the one fucking up by not letting this slide.
My advice? End it now, let it slide, and move on.