Thoughts on "KYS" or "Kill Yourself" used in chat

ithinkimabunny said:
The suffix -er, when added to a verb, references a person or thing that does an action indicated by the root verb
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You're so close...just keep going a little more.

I don't know what else to tell ya, no serious etymological research supports what you are saying. You can choose to believe the truth or not, its up to you:

www.etymonline.com

-ment - Etymology & Meaning of the Suffix

From Latin origin, this common suffix forms nouns from verbs, indicating the result, means, or instrument of the action, evolving through Vulgar Latin and Old Fre...
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xBlastFTPastx (DayRuiner) said:
You're so close...just keep going a little more.

I don't know what else to tell ya, no serious etymological research supports what you are saying. You can choose to believe the truth or not, its up to you:

www.etymonline.com

-ment - Etymology & Meaning of the Suffix

From Latin origin, this common suffix forms nouns from verbs, indicating the result, means, or instrument of the action, evolving through Vulgar Latin and Old Fre...
www.etymonline.com www.etymonline.com
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The Latin nominative declension plural of the singular mens (mind or intellect) is mentes.
Reference: https://www.latin-is-simple.com/en/vocabulary/noun/46/

Mentus vs. Mentes

Where do we proceed from here?
 
Mentum in Latin literally translates to "the chin".

I am unable to make sense of to control the chin as the basis for the word government no matter how many people and websites may claim otherwise.

EDIT: To control the chin could be taken to mean to control speech. In which case, it's just as bad as mind control. Speech is the action of projecting one's mind.

Mentes is the Latin plural of mind (mens).

I can find meaning in to control the mind (or mind control). Chin control? Not so much.

Both Mentum and Mentes contain ment.

As always, we'll leave it up to the individual to believe whatever they like.

You are certainly free to take the democratic approach and believe what all "the experts" tell you.
 
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Take for example the word 'mental'.

Of the mind. Here the root ment refers to the mind (from the Latin word mentes) and al means "of, like, related to, pertaining to".

If the etymology link for -ment is to be believed, one would have to agree that the Latin word mentus, which is claimed as the basis for the suffix ment in English -- in itself meaning "the chin" in Latin -- was added to Latin nouns to indicate "the result or product of the action of the very or the mean or instrument of the action." Does this make any sense?
 
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ithinkimabunny said:
As always, we'll leave it up to the individual to believe whatever they like.
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Unfortunately the truth is not up for debate, but ultimately this all just comes down to...why? If you wanted to make a system to control the minds of men would you be safer calling something cryptic like Project Oberyn or call it ImmaMindControlYou so everyone figures it out? Literally makes no sense...

It's like those people who think the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion is a real document, like some secret cabal of Jewish leaders held a meeting and took minutes?? Jewish World Domination Plan Meeting minutes chapter one: Here's our whole plan sure hope no one ever reads this and figures it out so I better write down!
 
xBlastFTPastx (DayRuiner) said:
Using this logic you gonna go to the store to buy a car and come out with a carpet...
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Here's the logic:

The link provided for the origin and history of -ment:
www.etymonline.com

-ment - Etymology & Meaning of the Suffix

From Latin origin, this common suffix forms nouns from verbs, indicating the result, means, or instrument of the action, evolving through Vulgar Latin and Old Fre...
www.etymonline.com www.etymonline.com

Claims English suffix -ment comes from the Latin -mentum, itself latterly meaning "the chin"
If accurate, it would then follow that in Latin -mentum was added to a verb to make nouns indicating the result or product of the action of the verb.
Nonsense, adding "the chin" to a verb in no way conveys "the product of the action".

Rather, the Latin mentes (plural for mind) does add meaning insofar that in order for any particular thing, event, circumstance, state or condition to exist as it currently does in our manifested reality, it must first have existed in the mind. I.e., manifestation of a thought as a product of action. In other words, transforming a thought into reality (a person, place, or thing... i.e. a noun).

Quite clear when you logic through it.
 
ithinkimabunny said:
Take for example the word 'mental'.

Of the mind. Here the root ment refers to the mind (from the Latin word mentes) and al means "of, like, related to, pertaining to".

If the etymology link for -ment is to be believed, one would have to agree that the Latin word mentus, which is claimed as the basis for the suffix ment in English -- in itself meaning "the chin" in Latin -- was added to Latin nouns to indicate "the result or product of the action of the very or the mean or instrument of the action." Does this make any sense?
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That's not what the etymonline link is saying at all though.
 
The0bamessiah said:
That's not what the etymonline link is saying at all though.
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So what? The Truth doesn't care about that particular opinion. What is it that you automatically think that's "the truth"? Consensus?

In formal Logic, this is what is known as an Appeal to Authority: when someone claims a statement is true simply because an authority figure supports it.

Under rules of logic, this is expressly disallowed.

In logic, "nuh uh, that's not what the other guy says" is not a defensible position.

Do you think because you show up with the goon squad that changes anything?
 
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ithinkimabunny said:
So what? The Truth doesn't care about that particular opinion. What is it that you automatically think that's "the truth"? Consensus?

In formal Logic, this is what is known as an Appeal to Authority: when someone claims a statement is true simply because an authority figure supports it.

Under rules of logic, this is expressly disallowed.

In logic, "nuh uh, that's not what the other guy says" is not a defensible position.

Do you think because you show up with the goon squad that changes anything?
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Stop editing this damn thing.

I don't need a goon squad.
 
The0bamessiah said:
Did you notice that it lists different meanings there?
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Nope. I noted the same meaning in this case because it's the same Latin root.

Lain men (meaning "to think") comes from the same Latin root as mens meaning the mind.

Mens rea, commonly used in common day law, means "a guilty mind".

Heck, the word "men" is used in title of beings (us) that are capable of reasoning of the mind.
 
ithinkimabunny said:
Nope. I noted the same meaning in this case because it's the same root.

Lain men (meaning "to think") comes from the same Latin root as mens meaning the mind.

Mens rea, commonly used in common day law, means "a guilty mind".
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But do you not see how that same root also has different meanings or are you just going to hyper-focus on the one that suits your argument?
 
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