Clarification

[FunkyForReal]

well if you can’t see mines laying in your path right outside spawn then that’s a skill issue,..

I distinctly remember Panda telling me, something to the effect of "they can be in their uncap all they want unmolested" and when I pitched the same scenario when I was in the uncap it was "if you do that you'll be banned, you know better" and "baiting" came into play.

It's selective instance to instance rules and it's subjective to players. It's bullshit.

yeh that’s what I was told as well. Later on I heard but if you bait then you’re the baddie. Well what if I want to see where the enemy is in jet and I turn around immediately after spawning . I’m not baiting i just want some extra time to find enemy aircraft without getting shot down immediately. In practice you could endlessly loiter in spawn with protection so long as you don’t fire but not really because um, idk, muh reasons XD

 

[gyat_rizzler]

well if you can’t see mines laying in your path right outside spawn then that’s a skill issue,..

yeh that’s what I was told as well. Later on I heard but if you bait then you’re the baddie. Well what if I want to see where the enemy is in jet and I turn around immediately after spawning . I’m not baiting i just want some extra time to find enemy aircraft without getting shot down immediately.

Oh no baiting people to break rules is actually allowed, if your name Frank_Castle and you are a bf4db admin. But not if you are some random person in chat

Baiting Bans

Is it a bannable offense to bait someone else into doing a bannable thing? https://banzore.com/forums/threads/complaint-from-frank-castle-about-player-geret5411.19475/ geret was banned for baiting other into saying the n word. He didn't say the word, just baiting people into saying it. How...

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[FunkyForReal]

For you, no-no, for them, allowed.

Isn’t that literally the only reason they allow shooting from spawn and “approved glitches”? The admins like glitches and camping in spawn on occasion so we all get to take advantage of it even if it’s dumb af?

When I used to play this on Xbox with the USAF/4ID guys it was black and white rules. No glitching, meant no glitching… No camping with AA in spawn meant just that.

The admins had to follow the rules to a T or ya just clipped them and sent the vids to the server owner.

 

[Mobius.jpeg]

Xbox with the USAF/4ID guys

Lmfaooooooo I remember them.

 

[gyat_rizzler]

Isn’t that literally the only reason they allow shooting from spawn and “approved glitches”? The admins like glitches and camping in spawn on occasion so we all get to take advantage of it even if it’s dumb af?

When I used to play this on Xbox with the USAF/4ID guys it was black and white rules. No glitching, meant no glitching… No camping with AA in spawn meant just that.

The admins had to follow the rules to a T or ya just clipped them and sent the vids to the server owner.

Some "glitches" aren't really glitches. You can jump on lots of rooftops that are uncommon on pearl market, doesn't mean those are glitches. The third floor on metro is similar and so is climbing up a mountain on locker.

 

[FunkyForReal]

Lmfaooooooo I remember them.

Yeh the 4ID were milsim guys and kinda cringe ngl… but Cub(server owner) and USAF guys were cool. XD

 

[Mobius.jpeg]

They’re the reason I have like 20 xbox accounts >:3

 

[ithinkimabunny]

 

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[FunkyForReal]

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[ithinkimabunny]

 

[Sabretooth-Ninja]

We do not allow mines or explosives to be placed in or near enemy uncap.

This is understood. Are players that are not banned yet allowed to throw C4 onto a tank that is clear of uncap boundary? Let the people know who the real Swag is.

 

[ithinkimabunny]

If you guys like this thread, go read this one. Contrast and compare.

Rules on provocative uncap engagement?

Requesting rule clarification from administrator or relevant party: How is provocative uncap engagement handled? Example: intentionally firing into enemy uncap without damaging enemy players or equipment (such as shooting above their heads, near them, etc- in such a way that the enemy returns...

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[Mobius.jpeg]

I have a solution to everyone’s problem: just play the game instead of tryna be a lil rat outside of the other team’s uncap. There’s a whole entire map to run around and get kills in.

 

[FunkyForReal]

This is understood. Are players that are not banned yet allowed to throw C4 onto a tank that is clear of uncap boundary? Let the people know who the real Swag is.

No we only gently place c4 so as not to offend, throwing is violent. We also make sure give the oblivious tank drivers a trigger warning (1)

Trigger Warning: A warning to hostile Gaymers that one is about to remotely detonate the explosives previously placed upon on their ass

 

[ithinkimabunny]

This is understood. Are players that are not banned yet allowed to throw C4 onto a tank that is clear of uncap boundary? Let the people know who the real Swag is.

Any response is meaningless unless we first define the boundary of uncap.

I know you understand this. This comment is for those that still don't grasp the problem.

 

[gyat_rizzler]

I have a solution to everyone’s problem: just play the game instead of tryna be a lil rat outside of the other team’s uncap. There’s a whole entire map to run around and get kills in.

The solution would be for certain admins to stop power tripping. If he has no intent to act in good faith, let a more helpful admin do it.

Sometimes we are trying to kill rats that hide in uncap and do nothing but mortar and UCAV.

 

[gyat_rizzler]

Any response is meaningless unless we first define the boundary of uncap.

I know you understand this. This comment is for those that still don't grasp the problem.

Imo if your mine is outside uncap you are following the rules. Skill issue if you keep dying to mines outside uncap. Once you die once to it, it's pretty obvious to look for them

 

[ithinkimabunny]

 

[Geauxfish]

Holy Cow...did I stir up a Hornets nest or what!!!

Bunny and Sabre, I commend you both on your truly inspirational arguments regarding uncap boundaries and requesting further definitions of the obscure Rule #2. I also believe it should be okay, but being that I play on Neo's server, and the admins set a rule that is not posted as a rule creates what we have before us...ANARCHY!

Bunny, don't blame me, blame JL1834cx...he is the one who got his panties in a wad and reported me. I've been setting c4 from that roof for years and many who play can vouch on that...Serlosealot, PrZZZ, MARCMONN, Thor0086, HeyDudeJoe, and probably Neo as well and not one of them or any others have complained or told me (that I can remember) it's against rules. They might get c4'd once, but they kill me next time around.
Everyone who plays knows I only use bow as primary weapon and against armor, haha...I lose, so I try to get a slight advantage of them coming out of uncap and rarely get them as those I mention and others are just to good with armor to get suckered twice.

Did I know it was against rules? No...its not listed in rules and it was never reported and it was always good sportsmanship with all who did suffer the c4 wrath. But like I said, someone's panties were too tight and instead of settling it on battlefield, he tattled. Guess if I was admin, I would've told him to settle it on battlefield.

I'm all for rules, no team killing, and btw, I think there should be !p for it as Panda believes. It would definitely stop all the tattleing to admin. If someone team kills and no sorry follows, then !p his ass.
I go back to Neo's original post when he started back BZ servers in 2020...

"Things are a little bit different this time around, we're relaxing a lot of the rules we had previously back to the way it was in the early days of our servers. There are only 3 rules:

1. No racism
2. No TKing
3. No base rape

Outside of that it's a free for all hardcore madhouse We're starting with a clean slate in terms of the banlist. Confirmed cheaters will remain banned but everyone else from our past ban list gets a chance to start over."

So called rules better off now, or back when Neo brought back BZ servers?
I'll say this, I'm more confused about the rules as they seem arbitrary, but I will abide as Panda laid out earlier.

I certainly don't think what Swag did to ban yall was right, if we can't discuss to agree or disagree, then we fail as humans.

This post I started was for clarification of a non-existent rule I had no knowledge of was meant to clear it up for me...it was not intended to get people banned. I enjoy taking Bunny out with my bow...we have mutual respect in taking each other out (bow vs s.rifle). Swag, please un-ban them...I did have fun reading Bunny's posts, in fact I was laughing my ass off (LMAO), and if you go back and read it...alot of what he says is true, annoying yes, but funny as hell!
Till next time, Geauxfish