In regards to Howie

[Sabretooth-Ninja]

Seems he legitimately thought the enemy was in play. Can we educate before we bring out the guillotine?
I get that RipeSnipe told him to quit it. I think we've all been in a situation where we thought we were whole-heartedly in the right, with a naysayer sqwaking to the contrary. Both sides think they're right, but impossible to substantiate either side in the moment.
Would it be unreasonable or otherwise cause undue hardship to have out-of-bounds maps posted on forum so that people can really get a sense for what is in play and what is not?
In the sport fishing world, in the annual regulations publication, such maps are provided to eliminate any confusion. I'm sure others can attest that it is often difficult to remember the exact boundaries for the enemy's uncap. I had just a situation early today on 1.5. I have never known Howie to be a rule breaker, toxic player, or otherwise shitty in nature.

 

[RipeSnipe]

nope. his argument was "that isn't uncap" not "I thought that was the other guy.
if he said that I could see his argument but he was posted up obliterating anybody that walked out of that spot which is wrong. I did not want to make a complaint about it but he got an attitude about it in game chat so he gets what he wants.
fuck em

 

[RipeSnipe]

he could have just taken it in stride, I even told him to go walk into uncap and find out for himself, but hes too good for that apparently

 

[RipeSnipe]

this has happened twice in past recent history where I try to check a regular in game chat, they get a bitchy ass attitude and basically tell me to go fuck myself, so I let the admins square it away.
I gave him a gentlemans way out and he chose not to take it, not my problem, and he did not want to just be educated, he chose the guillotine.

 

[RipeSnipe]

 

[RipeSnipe]

any more questions bud?

 

[RipeSnipe]

"not a toxic player"

 

[BigBadBagOfSwag]

Just press "M".

 

[xBlastFTPastx]

Holy shit with all due respect BZ guys Howie is cool as fuck (super nice, not toxic AT ALL, a joy to play with and a regular on all servers), you are clearly seething over some small ass shit. I get that rules are not applied equally (ask me how I know...) but ffs pull your heads outta your ass.

 

[RipeSnipe]

I dont care about your opinion, the entire situation is free to view to all. I told him not to attack uncap, he decided to "seeth". told him to stop it he went shit fit mode and said some less than "not a toxic player" shit so I went ahead and posted it here.
I had a shit day today and from this point on fuck howie and anybody coming here to justify his actions towards me.

 

[The0bamessiah]

The boundaries of the uncap are visible on the map. Just press M.

Personally I like Howie. I also liked MyelinSheath and several other players who have been banned. Sometimes people do dumb shit that gets them in trouble. That's life.

 

[BigBadBagOfSwag]

He attacked uncap and has a history of punish points, due to this he was issued a 1D temporary ban.
If he is unclear on what uncap is, hopefully he'll take this opportunity to appeal so clarification can be given.

If he chooses not to and continues, that is why we have a punish system in place.

 

[Covert8645]

We all have days, we all fuck up and say/do the wrong things. I like Ripe, and I like Howie. I'm glad this is only a 1D temp ban. I hope once the smoke settles that everyone can be frens again.

Frens <3

 

[Paladin]

That zig zag hallway is considered uncap? That can't be. I am certainly not going to allow an enemy to walk around that corner while I defend E and fire a shot before I engage. I can see Vinny for shooting down the hall, but why Howie? In the instance where that is considered uncap, you just baited him really in a scenario where you should be fair game lets be fair. Squad mates ducking behind cover to spawn makes you a live threat and puts you in the game IMO

 

[BigBadBagOfSwag]

Uncap is any greyed out portion of the map where the enemys base is.
That extends all the way until the larger room as well as until after the stairs on the other side.

It really shouldn't be that hard to see or understand.

 

[BigBadBagOfSwag]

If you're going to hang around the enemy uncap, you need to be diligent about whether you are within the rules or not.
If the enemy shoots out, you can engage that one single person unless the others shoot out, but not a moment sooner.
If the enemy uses equipment such as MAVs, C4, beacons etc you can engage that SINGLE enemy.

If you capture all of the flags you are allowed to advance upon the uncap as you have no where else to go.
Once you lose a flag, not all of them are blue, you need to start pulling back. As soon as one goes red, you would be in violation if they had not engaged you first.
Sticking around the furthest flag and breaking the rules is not tolerated, go elsewhere on the map if you cannot simply wait for the enemy to engage you first.

The enemy aiming a laser at you is not considered engagement. Spawning on a teammate is also not considered engagement.

 

[Covert8645]

I definitely understand from both a regular player perspective as well as an admin perspective. When I was in rTr, trying to educate players on the uncap areas was exhausting. I eventually had to go though on both teams of each map and screenshot each map to show where the go/no-go (uncap) areas were. It's touch and frustrating for an admin I know, and I also know how it can look subjectively as a regular player.

Maybe I'm just a big softy now

 

[Howiemandel01]

Your talking inches.....here. Its laughable to be sure. But a couple of things. 1.

he could have just taken it in stride, I even told him to go walk into uncap and find out for himself, but hes too good for that apparently

So you'll just type out any bulllshit that makes you feel good about yourself? Look at the chat box you yourself posted, where i said. "I JUST DID". That was in regard to your comment of "Yes it was uncap, why dont you go and see for yourself" for which i replied "I JUST DID" and, of course I did do that. And when I did that, I said to myself, well i guess it was uncap but fuck man, its close. For sure close enough that for someone who seeds the fucken server daily, changes teams when shit gets away from one and all sorts of dare I say "good things" for it to be......ahhhh its close but gotta let it go. But noooooo. I think you might have been trying to set up Vinny by using coms to your team mate, who was laying down, prone i might add, shooting into E from uncap...to "dont shoot, dont shoot" im assuming anyways you were settiing up someone so you could report. Which leads me to:

but he was posted up obliterating anybody that walked out of that spot which is wrong. I did not want to make a complaint about it but he got an attitude about it in game chat so he gets what he wants.

Clearly you are talking about someone else and not ME. I killed one person there. And that was you. I also just aborted my position there because if it was gonna be a problem, then problem was solved. Problem was solved. But you had to keep on with "you're gonna get ban'd dont believe me, i blah blah blah crap. I moved on, like i said. You didnt. For the record If i recorded everytime i've gotten killed in that exact spot where you were at, about 200 people would have Bans. Thats a fact. I have enough hours that im sure the math would work out. Big set up, where i got caught up into. But hey....it is what it is. Oh by the way, I do still love your team mate there, deep into uncap, laying prone, spraying with a bipod ... Classy. (dont reply that this allowed i know it is, which that in itself is moronic but another subject all-together) Not to throw vinny under the bus, but from your video vinny clearly was shooting in uncap. I didnt do that. Yeah yeah, grey area howie you should know blah blah. I'm here to tell you you were in the next level of grey area of uncap and out of uncap. I saw you a full 2 seconds (or longer) before I shot you. Why was that? Let you in a secret. I have an "IDEA" where that uncap was and i waited for you to clear it in my mind before I dusted your ass. But hey lets not bring reason into something.

I had a shit day today and from this point on fuck howie and anybody coming here to justify his actions towards me

Sounds like this might be the biggest problem right here.
Also, read that chat box you posted. As you can see, you were still blabbering on about banning me, and escalating the argument. I only responded to shit. I just didnt type out this. And as you can see each of my responses got more heated, then de-heated if you will, cuz......who cares.
And at the end of the day, I can not say that anyone that has played just one night with me here, i dont believe, not one person would say I attack uncaps or am A dirty player. No one here can say that. And for me, that would speak volumes, as I know that to be true. And in the end, thats good enough for me, not what someone who "is having a shitty day" says.
Also: From what im seeing on the servers lately, can we up the points awarded for flag captures? The amount of people no capping flags is the worst i've seen in 20 years.

 

[Howiemandel01]

Wanted to add:
Your little buddy who was prone with lmg and bipod back way deep into uncap......let me ask you a question. Why didn't I kill him too, or at least toss some shots at him? Your painting me as someone who attacks uncap with disregard, seems odd I didnt dust that noob too. In the end you were having a shitty day, thanks for deflecting that towards me. Two Thumbs up !!

 

[RipeSnipe]

And when I did that, I said to myself, well i guess it was uncap but fuck man, its close.

literally saying this at the time of the incident is all it would have taken to move on with our day today but nah, keep talking your shit howie.
see you on 2.